Doccábh legal system - Revision history

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	The '''Doccábh legal system''' was the set of laws, regulations, and rules used by the '''Doccábh Empire''', spanning a jurisprudence of TODO to TODO. It forms the basis for the majority of the legal systems in [[Yazland]].		The '''Doccábh legal system''' was the set of laws, regulations, and rules used by the '''Doccábh Empire''', spanning a jurisprudence of TODO to TODO. It forms the basis for the majority of the legal systems in [[Yazland]].
			It can largely be stratified into pre-Quinquevirate and post-Quinquevirate law.

	== ~~Early Doccábh Law~~ ==		== History ==

	== ~~Caoirism and Quinquevirate Law~~ ==		=== Early development ===

	~~[[Caoir Ergesi]]~~		archaic period with an adversarial system which places the courts as having neutral power from the king to mediate discussions and hand out punishments / force people to do things

	== Late imperial law ==		in super archaic times it was not always clear whether a court actually did have order from the king and a lot of political centralization comes from finding "who to point to", with kingdoms waging war against each other to become that (and get yummy yummy tax base)

			=== Regal period ===

			The regal period was marked by development of bureaucratic structures of law, replacing earlier, more informal avenues.

			the central problem being solved is that its hard to administer rule over large territories in northern yazland and so you need to make a real bureaucracy

			unfortunately you end up building a really rigid bureaucracy and insulate yourself from the provinces you rule so they become really unhappy with you and start calling for reform

			=== Caoirism and the Quinquevirate ===

			[[Caoir Ergesi]] says, "listen, guys, i know we all hate having so much law, but what if smart people made really good laws, and then everyone followed them and made a harmonious society". [https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1-the-story-so-far-in-the-beginning-the-universe-was This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.] they, their followers, and other thinkers produce immense tomes about how to think really good. this leads to the formation of the quinquevirate (also to represent the doccábh territories as a whole in triangle sea trade and create a sort of pax doccabica) and everyone lives happily ever after. caoirist reform leads to a inquisitorial legal system and the law of the quinquevirate forms to protect all of this awesome trade and enable econony :-D

			=== Late imperial law ===

			oops the empire is falling apart how do we have a society

	== Legacy ==		== Legacy ==

			most of the area including tsc, gintem, and ksc is common law shaped, dhimrai and some other places are civil law shaped. a traditionalist system in rationalist clothing pops up in tsc and so theirs is kind of a mixed system, in vahtyas they go crazy with the traditionalist system

			interesting to see how it would interact with [[Kunwidya]] law :eyes:

	== Notes ==		== Notes ==

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	*** codified system, civil-law-shaped		*** codified system, civil-law-shaped
	*** jurist-school tradition based on revival of ancient law (renaissance?)		*** jurist-school tradition based on revival of ancient law (renaissance?)

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	The '''Doccábh legal system''' was the set of laws, regulations, and rules used by the '''Doccábh Empire''', spanning a jurisprudence of TODO to TODO. It forms the basis for the majority of the legal systems in [[Yazland]].		The '''Doccábh legal system''' was the set of laws, regulations, and rules used by the '''Doccábh Empire''', spanning a jurisprudence of TODO to TODO. It forms the basis for the majority of the legal systems in [[Yazland]].

	~~notes:~~		== Early Doccábh Law ==

			== Caoirism and Quinquevirate Law ==

			[[Caoir Ergesi]]

			== Late imperial law ==

			== Legacy ==

			== Notes ==
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	* basis in customary, kinship-based courts, then built upon fiqh-style		* basis in customary, kinship-based courts, then built upon fiqh-style
	* prehistorical law largely looks like village elders mediating discussion?		* prehistorical law largely looks like village elders mediating discussion?

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The '''Doccábh legal system''' was the set of laws, regulations, and rules used by the '''Doccábh Empire''', spanning a jurisprudence of TODO to TODO. It forms the basis for the majority of the legal systems in [[Yazland]].

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* basis in customary, kinship-based courts, then built upon fiqh-style
* prehistorical law largely looks like village elders mediating discussion?
* major reform at some point in imperial history:
** adversarial -> inquisitorial (matches an increasing amount of bureaucracy as the empire forms)
*** largely this is "procedural centralization"; the court is not a forum, it is an investigation
** focus on turning the law into something more schematic, focusing on ownership, obligation, inheritance...
** some famous figure, a "legal emperor" or philosopher? is the "father" of this movement
*** legalist philosophy...
*** not a "rewriting" of the law but a grammar of law
*** "rationalist" project of facts -> classification -> principle -> judgement
*** later facts -> precedent -> interpretation -> judgement
** interpretation of ~hadith, cases as settled by $father being the gold standard, then direct followers of $father...
* descendant systems probably end up having common-law-aesthetics with canon-law-structure?
** more authoritative exemplars than binding precedent
** even within doccábh law, various ideological factions of law:
*** "rationalism", reconstruct the principle of law
*** "traditionalism", follow authoritative rulings
*** "historicism", recover what $father meant
*** "pragmatism", adapt inherited doctrine to current reality
** thru tsc invasion and the dissolution of the empire, you lose a lot of the case law and authoritative imperial jurists
** 3 main lineages?
*** precedent system, common-law-shaped
*** codified system, civil-law-shaped
*** jurist-school tradition based on revival of ancient law (renaissance?)

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	*** largely this is "procedural centralization"; the court is not a forum, it is an investigation		*** largely this is "procedural centralization"; the court is not a forum, it is an investigation
	** focus on turning the law into something more schematic, focusing on ownership, obligation, inheritance...		** focus on turning the law into something more schematic, focusing on ownership, obligation, inheritance...
	** ~~some famous figure, a "legal emperor" or philosopher?~~ is the "father" of this movement		** [[Caoir Ergesi]] is the "father" of this movement
	*** legalist philosophy...		*** legalist philosophy...
	*** not a "rewriting" of the law but a grammar of law		*** not a "rewriting" of the law but a grammar of law
	*** "rationalist" project of facts -> classification -> principle -> judgement		*** "rationalist" project of facts -> classification -> principle -> judgement
	*** later facts -> precedent -> interpretation -> judgement		*** later facts -> precedent -> interpretation -> judgement
	** interpretation of ~hadith, cases as settled by ~~$father~~ being the gold standard, then direct followers of ~~$father~~...		** interpretation of ~hadith, cases as settled by caoir being the gold standard, then direct followers of caoir...
	* descendant systems probably end up having common-law-aesthetics with canon-law-structure?		* descendant systems probably end up having common-law-aesthetics with canon-law-structure?
	** more authoritative exemplars than binding precedent		** more authoritative exemplars than binding precedent
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	*** "rationalism", reconstruct the principle of law		*** "rationalism", reconstruct the principle of law
	*** "traditionalism", follow authoritative rulings		*** "traditionalism", follow authoritative rulings
	*** "historicism", recover what ~~$father~~ meant		*** "historicism", recover what caoir meant
	*** "pragmatism", adapt inherited doctrine to current reality		*** "pragmatism", adapt inherited doctrine to current reality
	** thru tsc invasion and the dissolution of the empire, you lose a lot of the case law and authoritative imperial jurists		** thru tsc invasion and the dissolution of the empire, you lose a lot of the case law and authoritative imperial jurists